This week’s episode features none other than Mark Drager.  Having a top rated podcast, “We Do Hard Things,” Drager is an inspiration to his listeners.




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In today’s episode we dive deep into how to overcome the negative obstacles that can block you from your goals in life.

“The things that will catch you off guard, the life moments that smack you in the head, the things that go wrong are not the things you’re worrying about: they’re the things that you never saw coming…When you say yes to the hard or scary or difficult thing and you face it and it feels terrible but you work through it…that’s when you open yourself up to for some really cool things to happen.”


– Mark Drager

Mark Drager